Response 159625476

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Introduction and setting the context

1. To what extent do you agree with the vision: a nation ready for, and resilient to, flooding and coastal change – today, tomorrow and to the year 2100?

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Climate resilient places

3a. To what extent do you agree with strategic objective 1.1: Between now and 2050 the nation will be resilient to future flood and coastal risks. Over the next year the Environment Agency will work with partners to explore and develop the concept of standards for flood and coastal resilience?

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4b. Please provide comments on the measures described under strategic objective 1.2, and tell us about any additional measures you think there should be, and who could implement them.

Please provide comments on the measures described under strategic objective 1.2, and tell us about any additional measures you think there should be, and who could implement them.
Reconsider the separation of "main" and "non main" rivers to different authorities. This is confusing to the public; in some cases duplication of effort and an inconsistent approach to works in rivers.
Reconsider which rivers are "main" and "non main" as the historic designation of these rivers (& hence different levels of controls) are primarily based around land drainage. and not flooding .

5b. Please provide comments on the measures described under strategic objective 1.3, and tell us about any additional measures you think there should be, and who could implement them.

Please provide comments on the measures described under strategic objective 1.3, and tell us about any additional measures you think there should be, and who could implement them.
Measure 1.3.1 - Agree but with care not to provide only "engineered off the peg solutions". eg the best woody debris dams are often those made of what's available on site & mimicking nature rather than formal engineered structures.

6a. To what extent do you agree with strategic objective 1.4: Between now and 2030 risk management authorities enhance the natural, built and historic environments so we leave it in a better state for the next generation?

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6b. Please provide comments on the measures described under strategic objective 1.4, and tell us about any additional measures you think there should be, and who could implement them.

Please provide comments on the measures described under strategic objective 1.4, and tell us about any additional measures you think there should be, and who could implement them.
Full heartedly agree with enhancing the environment but note that preventing flooding in itself is rarely an enhancement for the natural environment ie mitigation, compensation & enhancement required.

7a. To what extent do you agree with strategic objective 1.5: Between now and 2030, risk management authorities will use funding and financing from new sources to invest in making the nation resilient to flooding and coastal change?

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Please explain your answer:
"New sources" suggests simply cut backs on central government funding.

Today’s growth and infrastructure - resilient to tomorrow’s climate

8a. To what extent do you agree with strategic objective 2.1: Between now and 2030 all new development will contribute to achieving place based resilience to flooding and coastal change?

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Please explain your answer:
Though noting that avoidance of floodplains, flood flow routes & areas vulnerable to river & coastal erosion should normally be the primary approach.

9a. To what extent do you agree with strategic objective 2.2: Between now and 2030 all new development will seek to support environmental net gain in local places?

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Please explain your answer:
Biodiversity has continued to be lost over recent decades despite grants and legal constraints. Environmental net gain needs to be fully implemented & enforced.

10a. To what extent do you agree with strategic objective 2.3: Between now and 2030 all risk management authorities will contribute positively to local economic regeneration and sustainable growth through their investments in flooding and coastal change projects?

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Please explain your answer:
Agree, provided this is clearly laid out as not enabling new development in floodplains and areas at erosion risk ie this policy would be expensive & not sustainable.

10b. Please provide comments on the measures described under strategic objective 2.3, and tell us about any additional measures you think there should be, and who could implement them.

Please provide comments on the measures described under strategic objective 2.3, and tell us about any additional measures you think there should be, and who could implement them.
This should include the option for strategic retreat to protect people & businesses.

11a. To what extent do you agree with strategic objective 2.4: Between now and 2050 places affected by flooding and coastal change will be ‘built back better’ and in better places?

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Please explain your answer:
Agree totally. eg Insurance companies should not be allowed to require like for like replacement of flood damaged property where there are viable & reasonable improvements available that would be more resilient.

12b. Please provide comments on the measures described under strategic objective 2.5, and tell us about any additional measures you think there should be, and who could implement them.

Please provide comments on the measures described under strategic objective 2.5, and tell us about any additional measures you think there should be, and who could implement them.
Local flood infrastructure management would generally be best within one authority. More efficient with less duplication of expertise; and clearer lines of communication/responsibility for the public & businesses.

13a. To what extent do you agree with strategic objective 2.6: Between now and 2050 the Environment Agency and risk management authorities will work with infrastructure providers to ensure all infrastructure investment is resilient to future flooding and coastal change?

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A nation of climate champions, able to adapt to flooding and coastal change through innovation

14a. To what extent do you agree with strategic objective 3.1: Between now and 2030 young people at 16 should understand the impact of flooding and coastal change, but also recognise the potential solutions for their place, and opportunities for career development?

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Please explain your answer:
"Should understand flooding and coastal change" ie not just "understand the impact" as this leads to wrong solution in wrong place and unnecessary collateral damage to the environment.

14b. Please provide comments on the measures described under strategic objective 3.1, and tell us about any additional measures you think there should be, and who could implement them.

Please provide comments on the measures described under this ambition, and tell us about any additional measures you think there should be and how they might be delivered.
Agree provided that this is not just about adverse impacts but includes a wider curriculum of the geography/geomorphology so that flooding and coastal change is understood in its wider context and not only the adverse impacts. Helps to promote better solutions.

15a. To what extent do you agree with strategic objective 3.2: Between now and 2030 people will understand the potential impact of flooding and coastal change on them and take action?

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16b. Please provide comments on the measures described under strategic objective 3.3, and tell us about any additional measures you think there should be, and who could implement them.

Please provide comments on the measures described under strategic objective 3.3, and tell us about any additional measures you think there should be, and who could implement them.
Surface water flooding and riverine flooding should be managed by one authority as they are not entirely separate issues and impact on each other. Individuals & businesses are often impacted by flooding from multiple sources and this would be more clearly addressed by a single organisation.

17a. To what extent do you agree with strategic objective 3.4: Between now and 2030 the nation will be recognised as world leader in managing flooding and coastal change, as well as developing and attracting talent to create resilient places?

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17b. Please provide comments on the measures described under strategic objective 3.4, and tell us about any additional measures you think there should be, and who could implement them.

Please provide comments on the measures described under strategic objective 3.4, and tell us about any additional measures you think there should be, and who could implement them.
Agree fully with 3.4.2 and 3.4.3.

Any other comments

18. Please provide any other comments

Please provide any other comments.
1) I think everyone in Redacted text hated the 3rd paragraph of the Introduction:
"Flooding of any kind is horrendous. Erosion destroys. They are dirty, invasive, damaging, and they can kill. They can force people to leave their homes and their businesses, cause prolonged mental ill health, and destroy livelihoods, natural habitats and other valued places. Even at their best, flooding and coastal change can be inconvenient and disruptive."
Inaccurate/only partially true.

3rd paragraph - 1st sentence of intro is untrue. Could potentially say "Flooding can be horrendous"?; or "Flooding of homes and businesses is horrendous"? However flooding is a natural process which is essential to many natural habitats and to the "health" of most rivers ie an important geomorphic process. Also flooding in most locations is important in protecting homes and businesses. Flooding out onto the floodplain instead of trying to contain it in-channel also reduces bank erosion. Occasionally flooding can even be beneficial to farming - depending on scale of flood and type of farming (Nile is the most obvious example - but here in Britain - water meadows...)

3rd paragraph - 2nd sentence. "Erosion destroys" - Yes sometimes - but it also creates. Again an important geomorphic process - essential for many types of fish spawning habitat; for many invertebrates and for nest sites for sand martins & kingfishers. Increases diversity of biotopes. Allows river to adjust to changes in flow & sediment supply eg meandering lengthens river and slows flow. Necessary for natural adjustment to climate change.

3rd paragraph - 4th sentence as already mentioned - generally creates/restores & maintains natural habitats - even though some are destroyed eg sandmartin nests can be destroyed by a flood but without floods/erosion they don't have nest sites. Similar for invertebrates of riverine sediments etc

3rd paragraph - Last sentence above also untrue - as per points above.


2) Separate issue - which I indirectly referred to in several questions within my formal consultation response (that appears to be lost). Nobody seems to be looking at the fact that main and non-main river have been divided between the EA and flood authorities. This was a retrograde move. The split has resulted in inconsistency; duplication of effort between organisations; confusion for applicants (particularly where works involve both main and non main river) - because they have two completely different regimes to apply for from different organisations using different critria. .. And of course a need for meetings and coordination between flood organisations that is less efficient than a single organisation responsible for flood schemes (both construction/maintenance & running). Doesn't really take into account that for NFM. flood storage etc work/approvals often needs to be on non-main rivers - even to protect property adjacent to main river. Most/many flood authorities do not have in house fisheries staff/expertise; or geomorphologists & often no biodiversity staff.

3) Something not mentioned (as far as I'd spotted at the time I stopped the main consultation ) - Caravans. Could we please change our approach to caravans in terms of planning response & protection. The idea/pretence that mobile homes/static caravans can/will be moved off the floodplain in a flood situation is generally completely impractical and in Cumbria rarely with sufficient warning. Caravans are extremely vulnerable to flooding; can be permanent homes; can be as expensive as some houses (ie relevant to cost benefit of flood schemes) and are particularly likely to house vulnerable people (physically or financially); and they can increase flood risk to others if washed downstream.