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2. The Salmon Five Point Approach

Q2.2a. To what extent do you agree with the summary of the current state of salmon stocks and the supporting information provided in Appendix 2?

Please select one item
Ticked Wholly
Partially
Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer.
Being on the rivers in wales,I have seen the decline,REASONS,no actual support from environment wales,nets taking to many fish,nobody checking what they take and when,inadequate prosecution of polluters,actually no prosecutions of polluters,farmers,IE,slurry,erosion of banks resulting in redds being covered in blankets of dirt,allowing trawlers to fish where and when they want,have personally witnessed this,rang the hot line and been told no weekend cover,take the trawlers number,great,etc,etc, and best answer you come up with is catch and release,completely ignoring the causes,that way it is zero investment ,no cost to you,a business plan domed to fail,I know that answering this survey wont be listened to because you already have an agenda.and as mr dave mee,head of fisheries in our area has said,we are leaving it to nature,nature hasn't had anything to do with the environment ever since we worked out how to exploit it day to day,I dont place any hope in you as an organization doing anything other than fiddling while rome burns.

3. Deciding which salmon stocks need further protection

Q3.2a. To what extent do you agree that a salmon stock should be subject to additional protection from net/fixed engine and rod exploitation if it is classified as either At Risk or Probably at Risk of failing to meet its Management Objective?

Please select one item
Wholly
Ticked Partially
Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer. If you would like to provide us with an alternative approach then please do so.
Rods DO NOT present any threats to salmon or sea trout stocks,NETS,TRAWLERS,AND ALL THE REASONS I HAVE GIVEN IN QUESTION 2.are the real dangers,do not blame a fisherman who has taken a handfull of fish in his live,when the nets take more he has had in a lifetime,on one tide,you see by including rod caught fish in question 2,is loaded,setting us up for fall when you maybe come to do something,restricting nets and trawlers would mean paying compensation,that wouldn't happen with fishermen would it.

4. Review of existing National Salmon Byelaws

Q4.2a. Do you agree with the proposal to renew without amendments the existing National Salmon Byelaws to protect spring salmon stocks?

Please select one item
Wholly
Partially
Ticked Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer.
No,you consult,discuss with those involved,then you amend or not,if only you would listen to those that know,IE,anglers we really could save a fast disappearing fish,

5.4. All consultees' views sought on the options for net and fixed engine fisheries

Q5.4a (Seeking all consultees' views on the options for net and fixed fisheries in England and on the Border Esk (except North East Coast Net Fishery Options)). Which is your preferred option for net and fixed engine fisheries as set out in Section 5.2: Table 2?

Please select one item
Option 1
Option 2
Option 3
Option 4
Ticked I don't have a preferred option
Please provide details of why you have given this answer.
I dont have much knowledge about nets,trawlers,other than they need further regulation,real measures to stop the over exploitation of the fish stocks,and not just that but real measures to rebuild the fish stocks and make them sustainablefor the future.

Q5.4c (Seeking all consultees' views on the options for net and fixed engine fisheries in England and on the Border Esk (except North East Coast Net Fishery)). How long do you consider the measures covering a net and / or fixed engine fishery should be in place for?

Please select all that apply
5 Years
10 Years
Ticked Other
If other, please specify
Until there is no longer any threat or pressure on the species
Please provide details of why you have given this answer.
The answer is obvious,

6.2. Possible options for rod fisheries - catch and release of salmon

Q6.2a (This question is for all consultees to answer and we are seeking your views on the possible options that have been developed). Which is your preferred option for the catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries from those that are set out in Section 6.2: Table 6?

Please select one item
Option 1
Option 2
Option 3
Option 4
Ticked I don't have a preferred option
Please provide details of why you have given this answer.
Because you are tinkering,as I have said,rods are not the problem.
If you don't have a preferred option, please tell us if there is another approach that you consider that we should be taking and why.
HATCH AND RELEASE,NOT CATCH AND RELEASE,

Q6.2b (This questions is for all consultees to answer and is in reference to the answer that you have given to Q6.2a). What are the benefits, if there are any, which you would see from your preferred option for the catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries?

These could be economic as well as social/cultural, please provide details if you are able.
Benefits would be many fold,economic,local,shops,hotels,etc,but mostly the benefits would be for the species,

Q6.2c (We would like to seek all consultees' views on the use of a voluntary (as opposed to mandatory) approach to deliver increased levels of catch and release). Do you agree with using a voluntary approach to deliver improved catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
If no or don't know, please explain your answer and include any dis-benefits that you consider the use of voluntary catch and release would bring.
YES,voluntary catch and release,I and many do and have done for years,but you needto know how to handle thefish correctly,not by the tail etc,where would that knowledge be gotten for those that dont know,I have seen many good intentions spoiled by lack of proper fish handling,only to see a returned fish float own the river upside down.

Q6.2d (If you answered yes to Q6.2c please answer these questions). Do you support the proposed levels of voluntary catch and release for rivers whose salmon populations are either At Risk, Probably at Risk or Probably Not at Risk (see Section 6.2: Table 6: Option 4)?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with what you think the levels of voluntary catch and release should be and the reasons for your answers.
Catch and release is not the answer on its own,never will be,you must implement real measures on all interested parties,if the whole of the uk went c&r it would not have any marked differences,except maybe more fish for the nets.

Q6.2e (If you answered yes to Q6.2c please also answer this question). What are the benefits that you would see in voluntary catch and release?

These could be economic as well as social/cultural, please provide details if you are able.
We are repeating ourselves here,answers as before.

Q6.2f (This question is for all consultees). Would you support the voluntary catch and release of all salmon caught (100%) on rivers whose salmon populations are either?

Please select one item
Ticked At Risk
At Risk and Probably at Risk
At Risk, Probably at Risk and Probably Not at Risk
I would not support the voluntary catch and release of all salmon caught
If you wish, please provide us with the reason for your answer.
Certainly I would,but it has to be a wholelist solution to the problem not just rods.

Q6.2g (This question is for salmon anglers). Would you stop fishing for salmon if the proposed levels of catch and release were implemented (see Section 6.2: Table 6)?

Please select all that apply
Ticked No (I wouldn’t stop fishing whichever option was implemented)
Yes, if Option 1 was implemented
Yes, if Option 2 was implemented
Yes, if Option 3 was implemented
Yes, if Option 4 was implemented
Please tell us which river(s) you fish for salmon on.
Towy,west wales rivers,Carmarthenshire

Q6.2h (This question is for salmon anglers). Would you consider moving to a river where lower levels of catch and release were required?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for your answer.
Yes,as I've said I have always practiced c&r,if that rivers fish stocks were stable or rising,I would fish it,but I wouldn't leave my rivers to a slow death and move somewhere else,fix it dont forget it.

6.3. Possible options for rod fisheries - improving survival of released salmon (voluntary measures)

Q6.3a (This question is for all consultees to answer and is about the best practice recommendations for catch and release). Do you agree with the catch and release best practice recommendations?

Please select one item
Yes, all of them
Ticked Some of them
None of them
I don't know

Q6.3c (This question is for all consultees to answer and is about other ways that you might improve salmon surviving capture). Are there any other catch and release best practice recommendations that you feel should be included?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
If yes, please provide us with the details of these and your reasons why.
Clubs running training on handling fish and releasing them,can be done at the pub,or club house,pamphlets,advice placed in association rule books etc,I have saved many salmon from a slow death through being released to quickly,

6.4. Possible options for rod fisheries - improving survival of released salmon (mandatory measures)

Q6.4a (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that having a landing net available to use should be required by byelaw whilst fishing for salmon or sea trout in England and Border Esk?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this answer.
Common sense,only a fool doesn't take one,

Q6.4b (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that a landing net used when fishing for salmon and sea trout should be required by byelaw to have a maximum mesh size of 20mm (as measured across the widest point of the stretched mesh)?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know

Q6.4c (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of barbed hooks should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know

Q6.4d (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of treble hooks should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?

Please select one item
Yes, all should be banned
Yes, but only large treble hooks greater than size 8 should be banned
Ticked No, these should not be banned
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this view and if you think that large treble hooks of a different size than greater than size 8 should be banned.
Treble hooks yes,but barbless

Q6.4e (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of circle hooks should be mandatory by byelaw when using worm as bait when fishing for salmon or sea trout?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know

Q6.4f (This question is for all consultees). Should there be restriction on the use of Flying ‘Cs’ when fishing for salmon or sea trout?

Please select one item
Yes, Flying ‘Cs’ should be banned
Yes, Flying ‘Cs’ should only be allowed with single hooks
Ticked No, restrictions should not apply to the use of Flying ‘Cs’
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this answer.
Barbless

Q6.4g (This question is for all consultees). In your opinion, are there other types of equipment that should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon and sea trout?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know