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2. The Salmon Five Point Approach

Q2.2a. To what extent do you agree with the summary of the current state of salmon stocks and the supporting information provided in Appendix 2?

Please select one item
Ticked Wholly
Partially
Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer.
I wholly agree with the total catch and release policy, mainly due to the fact that there are some greedy anglers out there that will flaunt a partial catch and kill policy. If it is total it will be much easier to police, i.e. you have a dead fish in your possession your breaking the law. I have already witnessed certain individuals hiding fish in undergrowth to abuse the catch limit on local clubs. I have not taken Salmon from our Welsh rivers for ten years now and have a sense of joy giving them their freedom after the satisfaction they have given me on catching them.

3. Deciding which salmon stocks need further protection

Q3.2a. To what extent do you agree that a salmon stock should be subject to additional protection from net/fixed engine and rod exploitation if it is classified as either At Risk or Probably at Risk of failing to meet its Management Objective?

Please select one item
Ticked Wholly
Partially
Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer. If you would like to provide us with an alternative approach then please do so.
I know that netting and net catches are someones possible livelihood but you must consider that the nett catch to rod catch is way considerably more. So if you are really and truly concerned about the migratery stocks you must start here. We have had numerous sewage and silage spills here in Wales over the last few seasons and nothing much has been done regarding this ongoing problem, killing hundreds if not thousands of fish and their environment in the process. This has caused massive destrust between angling clubs and the NRW and you cannot blame clubs for believing that they are being targeted because they are the easiest to deal with. But the angling income to the river owners, hotels, restaurants, angling clubs is no less important than the netting busynessis.

6.2. Possible options for rod fisheries - catch and release of salmon

Q6.2c (We would like to seek all consultees' views on the use of a voluntary (as opposed to mandatory) approach to deliver increased levels of catch and release). Do you agree with using a voluntary approach to deliver improved catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know
If no or don't know, please explain your answer and include any dis-benefits that you consider the use of voluntary catch and release would bring.
My own experience is that there are the few dishonest anglers that would flaunt this law. Mandatory catch and release no angler should have fish in their possession. Much easier to police. There are no reasons for making laws if they cannot be policed fairly.

Q6.2d (If you answered yes to Q6.2c please answer these questions). Do you support the proposed levels of voluntary catch and release for rivers whose salmon populations are either At Risk, Probably at Risk or Probably Not at Risk (see Section 6.2: Table 6: Option 4)?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know
Please select one item
Higher
Ticked Lower
If you wish, please provide us with what you think the levels of voluntary catch and release should be and the reasons for your answers.
Total catch and release, there is no other fair way.

Q6.2e (If you answered yes to Q6.2c please also answer this question). What are the benefits that you would see in voluntary catch and release?

These could be economic as well as social/cultural, please provide details if you are able.
The demise of our migratory fish does not bear thinking of. I am old enough to remember the hay days of fish stocks in our rivers and my heart bleeds for their present state. Having said that I do believe the biggest problem is out at sea and sea temperature s are a factor, our rivers and spawning streams are in very good stead and much cleaner then they were even in the stocks hey day, so how do you explain that?

Q6.2f (This question is for all consultees). Would you support the voluntary catch and release of all salmon caught (100%) on rivers whose salmon populations are either?

Please select one item
At Risk
Ticked At Risk and Probably at Risk
At Risk, Probably at Risk and Probably Not at Risk
I would not support the voluntary catch and release of all salmon caught

Q6.2g (This question is for salmon anglers). Would you stop fishing for salmon if the proposed levels of catch and release were implemented (see Section 6.2: Table 6)?

Please select all that apply
Ticked No (I wouldn’t stop fishing whichever option was implemented)
Yes, if Option 1 was implemented
Yes, if Option 2 was implemented
Yes, if Option 3 was implemented
Yes, if Option 4 was implemented
Please tell us which river(s) you fish for salmon on.
Conwy

Q6.2h (This question is for salmon anglers). Would you consider moving to a river where lower levels of catch and release were required?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for your answer.
I love the river I fish and I love fishing, I do not measure fishing pleasure by the number of fish I catch, but by being out in the countryside and enjoying all it has to offer.

6.3. Possible options for rod fisheries - improving survival of released salmon (voluntary measures)

Q6.3a (This question is for all consultees to answer and is about the best practice recommendations for catch and release). Do you agree with the catch and release best practice recommendations?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes, all of them
Some of them
None of them
I don't know
If you wish, please tell us which of them you agree/disagree with and provide us with further information to support your answer.
I have expressed my opinion on non mandatory catch and release in earlier question.

Q6.3b (This question is for angling club and fishery owners). With reference to the catch and release best practice recommendations in Section 6.3.3, which, if any, of these would you have difficulty applying to the waters under your control?

Please select all that apply
Stopping angling at high water temperatures (where they exceed 18 °C in the mid-morning).
Ticked Only allowing the use of single or double barbless hooks to minimise risk of injury.
Ticked Stopping the use of large treble hooks, particularly on Flying ‘C’ spinners,.
Ticked Only allowing the use of the least harmful bait/lure type (e.g. artificial flies with minimal, appropriately sized, barbless hooks fished actively),
Ticked Identifying safe landing areas and promoting their use to anglers before commencing fishing.
Ticked Minimising air exposure, by promoting that fish are not removed from the water during landing, unhooking and photographing.
Ticked Stopping fish being taken out of the river and onto the bank prior to release.
Ticked Only allowing the use of fish-friendly landing nets.
Ticked Stopping the practice of holding the fish up clear of the water by the tail only.
Please provides us with the details of your reasons why.
They are all self explanatory, a fish lives in water and the less their out of it the better.

Q6.3c (This question is for all consultees to answer and is about other ways that you might improve salmon surviving capture). Are there any other catch and release best practice recommendations that you feel should be included?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
If yes, please provide us with the details of these and your reasons why.
The banning of worm fishing entirely or at minimum enforce the use of barbless circle hooks. Ban fishing in known holding pools at high water levels where fish have to congregate in small areas until they can pass through at will.

6.4. Possible options for rod fisheries - improving survival of released salmon (mandatory measures)

Q6.4a (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that having a landing net available to use should be required by byelaw whilst fishing for salmon or sea trout in England and Border Esk?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know

Q6.4b (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that a landing net used when fishing for salmon and sea trout should be required by byelaw to have a maximum mesh size of 20mm (as measured across the widest point of the stretched mesh)?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know

Q6.4c (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of barbed hooks should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know

Q6.4d (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of treble hooks should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes, all should be banned
Yes, but only large treble hooks greater than size 8 should be banned
No, these should not be banned
I don't know

Q6.4e (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of circle hooks should be mandatory by byelaw when using worm as bait when fishing for salmon or sea trout?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know

Q6.4f (This question is for all consultees). Should there be restriction on the use of Flying ‘Cs’ when fishing for salmon or sea trout?

Please select one item
Yes, Flying ‘Cs’ should be banned
Ticked Yes, Flying ‘Cs’ should only be allowed with single hooks
No, restrictions should not apply to the use of Flying ‘Cs’
I don't know

Q6.4g (This question is for all consultees). In your opinion, are there other types of equipment that should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon and sea trout?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know

7. Further comments

Q7 (This is for all consultees). Please tell us if you have any further comments that you would like to provide on this consultation.

Please provide your further comments here.
Please be honest with anglers and have as much regard for our rivers and fish as we most anglers have. I am always aware of hidden agendas by authorities that is the situation you have placed us in. Too many scientists and not enough people on the rivers themselves who see, hear and know every ripple and rock on their rivers.