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2. The Salmon Five Point Approach

Q2.2a. To what extent do you agree with the summary of the current state of salmon stocks and the supporting information provided in Appendix 2?

Please select one item
Wholly
Ticked Partially
Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer.
There appears to be a cyclical change in migration into the solway rivers with a considerable increase in spring and early summer fish , seat rout are slightly increasing and the autumn run has become very sparse. This decline in salmon has been gradual but obvious for the last two decades. it has taken the EA one of these decades to get off its backside and listen to anglers and try to do something other than writing reports about it. BUT when the Eden hatchery at Holmewrangle is providing stock for the fish farms and not the Eden it is not surprising we are spitting against the wind. !!!

3. Deciding which salmon stocks need further protection

Q3.2a. To what extent do you agree that a salmon stock should be subject to additional protection from net/fixed engine and rod exploitation if it is classified as either At Risk or Probably at Risk of failing to meet its Management Objective?

Please select one item
Wholly
Ticked Partially
Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer. If you would like to provide us with an alternative approach then please do so.
How many more nets do you need to close down before you realise that the measures taken to date have not worked? fishing with rod and line has declined as a pastime so catches are bound to be less! Rod and line fishers have put back a huge proportion of their catch over the last few years and look how much influence that has had -- negligible . The protection needs to be at sea , I know that , you know that and so does Nicola Sturgeon and that Salmond bloke. Sea lice, sea lice and more sea lice. Get the farms out of the sea , you might even save the Wrasse population.!!

4. Review of existing National Salmon Byelaws

Q4.2a. Do you agree with the proposal to renew without amendments the existing National Salmon Byelaws to protect spring salmon stocks?

Please select one item
Wholly
Ticked Partially
Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer.
I see more fish in the spring this year in one day than I have in the Eden in TWO YEARS !! One fish per month is sustainable per rod.

5.4. All consultees' views sought on the options for net and fixed engine fisheries

Q5.4a (Seeking all consultees' views on the options for net and fixed fisheries in England and on the Border Esk (except North East Coast Net Fishery Options)). Which is your preferred option for net and fixed engine fisheries as set out in Section 5.2: Table 2?

Please select one item
Option 1
Option 2
Option 3
Option 4
Ticked I don't have a preferred option

Q5.4c (Seeking all consultees' views on the options for net and fixed engine fisheries in England and on the Border Esk (except North East Coast Net Fishery)). How long do you consider the measures covering a net and / or fixed engine fishery should be in place for?

Please select all that apply
Ticked 5 Years
10 Years
Other

6.2. Possible options for rod fisheries - catch and release of salmon

Q6.2a (This question is for all consultees to answer and we are seeking your views on the possible options that have been developed). Which is your preferred option for the catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries from those that are set out in Section 6.2: Table 6?

Please select one item
Option 1
Option 2
Option 3
Option 4
Ticked I don't have a preferred option
If you don't have a preferred option, please tell us if there is another approach that you consider that we should be taking and why.
The approach which has been needed for may years , and which the late Peter Grey developed on the Keilder hatchery is to breed salmon in a properly constituted well run HATCHERY , from indigenous stocks and restock our rivers. reducing the population of seals would also help!! I have to note here that the fish farms do not seem to be short of salmon, and where and how do they get theirs !!!? Their output far exceeds all the rivers in the UK and they don't pay a penny towards maintaining our rivers, do they?

Q6.2b (This questions is for all consultees to answer and is in reference to the answer that you have given to Q6.2a). What are the benefits, if there are any, which you would see from your preferred option for the catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries?

These could be economic as well as social/cultural, please provide details if you are able.
The salmon which are sourced from our rivers would not be laced with carcinogens. The hatcheries would provide employment . The resulting increase in stocks would encourage people to the up angling again , which has social and health benefits .

Q6.2c (We would like to seek all consultees' views on the use of a voluntary (as opposed to mandatory) approach to deliver increased levels of catch and release). Do you agree with using a voluntary approach to deliver improved catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know

Q6.2d (If you answered yes to Q6.2c please answer these questions). Do you support the proposed levels of voluntary catch and release for rivers whose salmon populations are either At Risk, Probably at Risk or Probably Not at Risk (see Section 6.2: Table 6: Option 4)?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with what you think the levels of voluntary catch and release should be and the reasons for your answers.
The EA already know what the levels of catch and release are in most rivers in the UK. They know levels on average are over 80% Surely that is sufficient.

Q6.2e (If you answered yes to Q6.2c please also answer this question). What are the benefits that you would see in voluntary catch and release?

These could be economic as well as social/cultural, please provide details if you are able.
Perhaps it would allow a legally caught but dying or dead fish to be taken without the angler being dragged to court and fined for not putting a dead fish back ?

Q6.2f (This question is for all consultees). Would you support the voluntary catch and release of all salmon caught (100%) on rivers whose salmon populations are either?

Please select one item
At Risk
Ticked At Risk and Probably at Risk
At Risk, Probably at Risk and Probably Not at Risk
I would not support the voluntary catch and release of all salmon caught

Q6.2g (This question is for salmon anglers). Would you stop fishing for salmon if the proposed levels of catch and release were implemented (see Section 6.2: Table 6)?

Please select all that apply
Ticked No (I wouldn’t stop fishing whichever option was implemented)
Yes, if Option 1 was implemented
Yes, if Option 2 was implemented
Yes, if Option 3 was implemented
Yes, if Option 4 was implemented
Please tell us which river(s) you fish for salmon on.
R Eden. R Esk. (Border)

Q6.2h (This question is for salmon anglers). Would you consider moving to a river where lower levels of catch and release were required?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for your answer.
Im too old. 63 consecutive licences !! since age 13.

6.3. Possible options for rod fisheries - improving survival of released salmon (voluntary measures)

Q6.3a (This question is for all consultees to answer and is about the best practice recommendations for catch and release). Do you agree with the catch and release best practice recommendations?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes, all of them
Some of them
None of them
I don't know
If you wish, please tell us which of them you agree/disagree with and provide us with further information to support your answer.

Q6.3c (This question is for all consultees to answer and is about other ways that you might improve salmon surviving capture). Are there any other catch and release best practice recommendations that you feel should be included?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
If yes, please provide us with the details of these and your reasons why.
Get regular patrols of rivers by EA staff to advise . and to check for illegal fishing

6.4. Possible options for rod fisheries - improving survival of released salmon (mandatory measures)

Q6.4a (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that having a landing net available to use should be required by byelaw whilst fishing for salmon or sea trout in England and Border Esk?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know

Q6.4b (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that a landing net used when fishing for salmon and sea trout should be required by byelaw to have a maximum mesh size of 20mm (as measured across the widest point of the stretched mesh)?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know

Q6.4c (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of barbed hooks should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know

Q6.4d (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of treble hooks should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?

Please select one item
Yes, all should be banned
Ticked Yes, but only large treble hooks greater than size 8 should be banned
No, these should not be banned
I don't know

Q6.4e (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of circle hooks should be mandatory by byelaw when using worm as bait when fishing for salmon or sea trout?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
What would the impact be, if any, for you or your business of only allowing the use of circle hooks when using worm as bait when fishing for salmon or sea trout?
None

Q6.4f (This question is for all consultees). Should there be restriction on the use of Flying ‘Cs’ when fishing for salmon or sea trout?

Please select one item
Yes, Flying ‘Cs’ should be banned
Yes, Flying ‘Cs’ should only be allowed with single hooks
Ticked No, restrictions should not apply to the use of Flying ‘Cs’
I don't know

Q6.4g (This question is for all consultees). In your opinion, are there other types of equipment that should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon and sea trout?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
Please provide details of what these could be and why you think they should be prohibited or altered.
lures with more than one set of treble hooks.

7. Further comments

Q7 (This is for all consultees). Please tell us if you have any further comments that you would like to provide on this consultation.

Please provide your further comments here.
I have only been a fisherman (and boy) for 70+ years , my first involvement in conservation being 1949 when a wagon load of sheep-dip killed off the R Wampool in Cumbria. My father and I gathered up the 100% dead trout for the river board. In those days every area had a hatchery or access to stock renewal and it was not frowned upon!!! There are many factors at work predating on our rivers and stocks of fish, since the advent of slurry on the land things have declined in our rivers, Piscivorous birds have become protected , and proliferate as we speak. At sea seals are out of control. In estuarial waters we have the dammned salmon farms, Who the blue blazes allowed them into existence in the sea ? On land enclosed systems should be mandatory . I would also ask that all EA staff and bosses should buy and read Peter grey's book "Swimming against the tide" then act on its findings !!