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2. The Salmon Five Point Approach

Q2.2a. To what extent do you agree with the summary of the current state of salmon stocks and the supporting information provided in Appendix 2?

Please select one item
Ticked Wholly
Partially
Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer.
i have fished for salmon and seatrout for 50 years,Redacted text.i have seen a consistent decline in the number of fish during this time.Many factors contribute to this,eg pollution,siltation of spawning gravel,overfishing at sea, both of adult fish and their food source,and many other things also.

3. Deciding which salmon stocks need further protection

Q3.2a. To what extent do you agree that a salmon stock should be subject to additional protection from net/fixed engine and rod exploitation if it is classified as either At Risk or Probably at Risk of failing to meet its Management Objective?

Please select one item
Ticked Wholly
Partially
Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer. If you would like to provide us with an alternative approach then please do so.
salmon and seatrout stocks are assessed from catch returns.for years they have been known to be unreliable.an example of this is anglers declaring more fish than they have actually caught in order to give the impression of healthy stocks so as to avoid method and catch restrictions.as a bailiff i noticed that many times catch returns did not tie up with fish populations that i had seen in the rivers.

4. Review of existing National Salmon Byelaws

Q4.2a. Do you agree with the proposal to renew without amendments the existing National Salmon Byelaws to protect spring salmon stocks?

Please select one item
Wholly
Ticked Partially
Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer.
these byelaws have always been laughable.why would you allow catch and release for spring salmon whilst still allowing them to be caught on spinners mounted with six barbed treble hooks.any angler knows and i have seen it myself that it is almost impossible to extract these hooks without harming the fish and those fish that are released will eventually die.

6.2. Possible options for rod fisheries - catch and release of salmon

Q6.2a (This question is for all consultees to answer and we are seeking your views on the possible options that have been developed). Which is your preferred option for the catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries from those that are set out in Section 6.2: Table 6?

Please select one item
Option 1
Option 2
Option 3
Option 4
Ticked I don't have a preferred option
If you don't have a preferred option, please tell us if there is another approach that you consider that we should be taking and why.
i have fished all over the world,canada usa,argentina,chile,scandinavia and all over britain.i now guide in patagonia,i have to say that the british anglers attitude to catch and release is light years behind the attitude of anglers in the above mentioned countries.if you kill a fish in the u.s or argentina they would probably hang you.we are also way behind in terms of conservation ,just go online and look at some of the work being done by trout unlimited in the u.s.i would like to see a tagging system adopted similair to that used in some other countries e,g when you buy your license you are issued with one tag for salmon and five tags for seatrout,every fish caught must be tagged immeadiately upon capture,any untagged fish found in your possession are therefore illegal.also shorten the seasons,the season for salmon ends on december the 16th on some west country rivers,this is way too late.

Q6.2b (This questions is for all consultees to answer and is in reference to the answer that you have given to Q6.2a). What are the benefits, if there are any, which you would see from your preferred option for the catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries?

These could be economic as well as social/cultural, please provide details if you are able.
if tagging were adopted anglers would be limited in their impact on stocks,at the moment they can declare what they like on their returns and nobody is the wiser.with my suggested approach anglers would be limited in what they could kill but could still fish thus still contributing economic and social benefit.however catch and release would have to be limited also because of the damage caused to fish.methods would also need to be revised.

Q6.2c (We would like to seek all consultees' views on the use of a voluntary (as opposed to mandatory) approach to deliver increased levels of catch and release). Do you agree with using a voluntary approach to deliver improved catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know

Q6.2f (This question is for all consultees). Would you support the voluntary catch and release of all salmon caught (100%) on rivers whose salmon populations are either?

Please select one item
At Risk
At Risk and Probably at Risk
At Risk, Probably at Risk and Probably Not at Risk
Ticked I would not support the voluntary catch and release of all salmon caught
If you wish, please provide us with the reason for your answer.
no i would not support voluntary catch and release but would support mandatory catch and release for reasons given previously

Q6.2g (This question is for salmon anglers). Would you stop fishing for salmon if the proposed levels of catch and release were implemented (see Section 6.2: Table 6)?

Please select all that apply
Ticked No (I wouldn’t stop fishing whichever option was implemented)
Yes, if Option 1 was implemented
Yes, if Option 2 was implemented
Yes, if Option 3 was implemented
Yes, if Option 4 was implemented
Please tell us which river(s) you fish for salmon on.
tamar lynher fowey camel

Q6.2h (This question is for salmon anglers). Would you consider moving to a river where lower levels of catch and release were required?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know

6.3. Possible options for rod fisheries - improving survival of released salmon (voluntary measures)

Q6.3a (This question is for all consultees to answer and is about the best practice recommendations for catch and release). Do you agree with the catch and release best practice recommendations?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes, all of them
Some of them
None of them
I don't know
If you wish, please tell us which of them you agree/disagree with and provide us with further information to support your answer.
yes i agree with them ,problem is most anglers dont and wont adopt them-this is based on what i have seen Redacted text.

Q6.3c (This question is for all consultees to answer and is about other ways that you might improve salmon surviving capture). Are there any other catch and release best practice recommendations that you feel should be included?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
If yes, please provide us with the details of these and your reasons why.
dont treat salmon as playthings,they are too precious ,if you want to keep catching fish then go reservoir fishing or coarse fishing,or take up golf.

6.4. Possible options for rod fisheries - improving survival of released salmon (mandatory measures)

Q6.4a (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that having a landing net available to use should be required by byelaw whilst fishing for salmon or sea trout in England and Border Esk?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this answer.
anglers fish from high banks with no means of landing fish,as a result the fish break off trailing hooks and line.

Q6.4b (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that a landing net used when fishing for salmon and sea trout should be required by byelaw to have a maximum mesh size of 20mm (as measured across the widest point of the stretched mesh)?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know

Q6.4c (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of barbed hooks should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
What would the impact, if any, be for you or your business of prohibiting the use of barbed hooks when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?
i dont see that there would be any impact barbless hooks have been mandatory in many countries for years -anglers still fish.

Q6.4d (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of treble hooks should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes, all should be banned
Yes, but only large treble hooks greater than size 8 should be banned
No, these should not be banned
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this view and if you think that large treble hooks of a different size than greater than size 8 should be banned.
i have seen how they damage fish.
What would the impact be, if any, for you or your business of prohibiting the use of treble hooks (either completely or only large treble hooks) when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?
none i only use single barbless hooks.

Q6.4e (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of circle hooks should be mandatory by byelaw when using worm as bait when fishing for salmon or sea trout?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this answer.
these do more damage than standard hooks,they are often swallowed and are then impossible to remove,a single barbless hook is much better.
What would the impact be, if any, for you or your business of only allowing the use of circle hooks when using worm as bait when fishing for salmon or sea trout?
see above

Q6.4f (This question is for all consultees). Should there be restriction on the use of Flying ‘Cs’ when fishing for salmon or sea trout?

Please select one item
Yes, Flying ‘Cs’ should be banned
Ticked Yes, Flying ‘Cs’ should only be allowed with single hooks
No, restrictions should not apply to the use of Flying ‘Cs’
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this answer.
ease of unhooking.

7. Further comments

Q7 (This is for all consultees). Please tell us if you have any further comments that you would like to provide on this consultation.

Please provide your further comments here.
greatest advance would be to educate british anglers,they are way behind when it comes to conservation of stocks,they only think about now and not the future,also the EA needs educating,stop relying on catch returns, they are being fiddled in order to stop the introduction of further restrictions,more salmon are being killed than are declared on returns.salmon stocks have crashed seatrout stocks are down,something needs to be done now.i am all for closing all rivers for 5 years to allow stocks to recover,during this time anglers could get involved in conservation projects.then we will see whether they are really concerned about the future of salmonids.enforcement needs to be stepped up,this could involve anglers monitoring each other as they do in the u.s ,make it cool to be conservation minded.