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2. The Salmon Five Point Approach

Q2.2a. To what extent do you agree with the summary of the current state of salmon stocks and the supporting information provided in Appendix 2?

Please select one item
Wholly
Ticked Partially
Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer.
It can only be a guestimate as to salmon stocks and survival rates as no one knows. I would think the actual picture is a whole lot worse. I know that nets men for example would throw back the tags in salmon so as not be burdened with filing returns.The data is reliant on people being exemplary in their honesty , catch figs and records which is unlikely in economically tough times. RETA produces some stats about the number of fry returning to the sea - or rather not returning because they couldn't get back down the weirs, and were thus predated - there is no mention of predator control - seals / cormorants / perch/ pike..

3. Deciding which salmon stocks need further protection

Q3.2a. To what extent do you agree that a salmon stock should be subject to additional protection from net/fixed engine and rod exploitation if it is classified as either At Risk or Probably at Risk of failing to meet its Management Objective?

Please select one item
Ticked Wholly
Partially
Not at all

4. Review of existing National Salmon Byelaws

Q4.2a. Do you agree with the proposal to renew without amendments the existing National Salmon Byelaws to protect spring salmon stocks?

Please select one item
Ticked Wholly
Partially
Not at all

6.2. Possible options for rod fisheries - catch and release of salmon

Q6.2a (This question is for all consultees to answer and we are seeking your views on the possible options that have been developed). Which is your preferred option for the catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries from those that are set out in Section 6.2: Table 6?

Please select one item
Option 1
Option 2
Option 3
Ticked Option 4
I don't have a preferred option
Please provide details of why you have given this answer.
As a fly fisherman I would see no point in fishing if all you ever did was return all fish - there has to be some incentive to pay large sums of money to help run and maintain stretches of river - via club subscriptions - we all want to enjoy our sport but are fully aware of our responsibilities in conservation of stock. I also don't think that the numbers of salmon caught on rod and line - even if all were retained and not returned would actually make a significant difference to the salmon population levels. Whereas if all nets were taken out it would make a significant impact. The two are not comparable in terms of numbers of fish taken.

Q6.2b (This questions is for all consultees to answer and is in reference to the answer that you have given to Q6.2a). What are the benefits, if there are any, which you would see from your preferred option for the catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries?

These could be economic as well as social/cultural, please provide details if you are able.
you would be keeping rod and line fishermen still involved and active in conservation and protection of the species - the rivers would still be "looked after" and managed. That would not be viable if no one wanted to spend money joining a club / buying a licence if there was never any return on their investment - ie one for the pot every so often.

Q6.2c (We would like to seek all consultees' views on the use of a voluntary (as opposed to mandatory) approach to deliver increased levels of catch and release). Do you agree with using a voluntary approach to deliver improved catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know

Q6.2d (If you answered yes to Q6.2c please answer these questions). Do you support the proposed levels of voluntary catch and release for rivers whose salmon populations are either At Risk, Probably at Risk or Probably Not at Risk (see Section 6.2: Table 6: Option 4)?

Please select one item
Yes
No
Ticked I don't know

Q6.2e (If you answered yes to Q6.2c please also answer this question). What are the benefits that you would see in voluntary catch and release?

These could be economic as well as social/cultural, please provide details if you are able.
Ensures compliance if its something "you" voted in WE are the ones with a vested interest not a commercial one, so its in our interest to adhere to bag limits

Q6.2f (This question is for all consultees). Would you support the voluntary catch and release of all salmon caught (100%) on rivers whose salmon populations are either?

Please select one item
At Risk
Ticked At Risk and Probably at Risk
At Risk, Probably at Risk and Probably Not at Risk
I would not support the voluntary catch and release of all salmon caught
If you wish, please provide us with the reason for your answer.
Stocks take so long to recover that the top 2 dangerous level of stock categories need serious action taken, now.

Q6.2g (This question is for salmon anglers). Would you stop fishing for salmon if the proposed levels of catch and release were implemented (see Section 6.2: Table 6)?

Please select all that apply
No (I wouldn’t stop fishing whichever option was implemented)
Ticked Yes, if Option 1 was implemented
Ticked Yes, if Option 2 was implemented
Ticked Yes, if Option 3 was implemented
Yes, if Option 4 was implemented
Please tell us which river(s) you fish for salmon on.
Tamar and Exe

Q6.2h (This question is for salmon anglers). Would you consider moving to a river where lower levels of catch and release were required?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for your answer.
I have fished the same section of river for all of my life - that is the attraction for me - my father fished them before me, I have a tie to those rivers. If I just wanted to go fishing I could buy that any where any time. I have bought into a private club that protects and conserves our stretches to the best of our abilities, for the preservation of the sport and the fish - otherwise there is no sport.

Q6.2i (This question is for owners/lessees of salmon rod fisheries). What would the impact of these catch and release proposals be on your fishery (see Section 6.2: Table 6)?

Please select one item
No impact as a result of any of the options
Ticked A significant impact as a result of one or more of the options
I don’t know
Please provide us with details of which of the possible option(s) would result in a significant difference to your fishery. Please provide us with details of financial and social impacts.
Since the EA do not do any river maintenance these days, it is beholden of the riparian owner to do that - at our cost - if there was no benefit to doing it, the rivers would soon revert to blocked channels, with no interested parties maintaining them. There has to be an incentive to maintain the rivers for all species including the humans.

6.3. Possible options for rod fisheries - improving survival of released salmon (voluntary measures)

Q6.3a (This question is for all consultees to answer and is about the best practice recommendations for catch and release). Do you agree with the catch and release best practice recommendations?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes, all of them
Some of them
None of them
I don't know

Q6.3c (This question is for all consultees to answer and is about other ways that you might improve salmon surviving capture). Are there any other catch and release best practice recommendations that you feel should be included?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
If yes, please provide us with the details of these and your reasons why.
Fishermen should be taught the best practice before being given their first licence - like a driving test until you pass the test you can't drive.

6.4. Possible options for rod fisheries - improving survival of released salmon (mandatory measures)

Q6.4a (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that having a landing net available to use should be required by byelaw whilst fishing for salmon or sea trout in England and Border Esk?

Please select one item
Yes
No
Ticked I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this answer.
Yes all fishermen should have a landing net in their party - but not necessarily on them unless they are fishing alone.

Q6.4b (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that a landing net used when fishing for salmon and sea trout should be required by byelaw to have a maximum mesh size of 20mm (as measured across the widest point of the stretched mesh)?

Please select one item
Yes
No
Ticked I don't know
Please tell us if you think this mesh size should be different from this and why.
What benefit would it bring?

Q6.4c (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of barbed hooks should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
What would the impact, if any, be for you or your business of prohibiting the use of barbed hooks when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?
Fishing suppliers would stand to gain a lot of money - everyone having to replace their fly boxes..some incentive needs to be passed back to the consumers..

Q6.4d (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of treble hooks should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?

Please select one item
Yes, all should be banned
Yes, but only large treble hooks greater than size 8 should be banned
No, these should not be banned
Ticked I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this view and if you think that large treble hooks of a different size than greater than size 8 should be banned.
Not enough fish are caught on rod on line to make this a serious issue..
What would the impact be, if any, for you or your business of prohibiting the use of treble hooks (either completely or only large treble hooks) when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?
None - people comply with bylaws whatever they are..barbless or trebless

Q6.4e (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of circle hooks should be mandatory by byelaw when using worm as bait when fishing for salmon or sea trout?

Please select one item
Yes
No
Ticked I don't know

Q6.4f (This question is for all consultees). Should there be restriction on the use of Flying ‘Cs’ when fishing for salmon or sea trout?

Please select one item
Yes, Flying ‘Cs’ should be banned
Ticked Yes, Flying ‘Cs’ should only be allowed with single hooks
No, restrictions should not apply to the use of Flying ‘Cs’
I don't know

Q6.4g (This question is for all consultees). In your opinion, are there other types of equipment that should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon and sea trout?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
Please provide details of what these could be and why you think they should be prohibited or altered.
anything electronic or scanning devices to locate schools of fish