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2. The Salmon Five Point Approach

Q2.2a. To what extent do you agree with the summary of the current state of salmon stocks and the supporting information provided in Appendix 2?

Please select one item
Ticked Wholly
Partially
Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer.
Salmon stocks have declined as a result of diffuse pollution in the rivers and mortality at sea. Therefore we need to increase the smolt output from the rivers and try and reduce exploitation of salmon by netting and rod and line.

3. Deciding which salmon stocks need further protection

Q3.2a. To what extent do you agree that a salmon stock should be subject to additional protection from net/fixed engine and rod exploitation if it is classified as either At Risk or Probably at Risk of failing to meet its Management Objective?

Please select one item
Ticked Wholly
Partially
Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer. If you would like to provide us with an alternative approach then please do so.
No mixed stock netting should be allowed especially when it is banned in Scotland and also in river expoitation should cease until stocks recover.

4. Review of existing National Salmon Byelaws

Q4.2a. Do you agree with the proposal to renew without amendments the existing National Salmon Byelaws to protect spring salmon stocks?

Please select one item
Wholly
Ticked Partially
Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer.
I feel that spring salmon stocks should be protected after 16th June and therefore a complete ban on killing salmon should be implemented until stocks recover.

5.4. All consultees' views sought on the options for net and fixed engine fisheries

Q5.4a (Seeking all consultees' views on the options for net and fixed fisheries in England and on the Border Esk (except North East Coast Net Fishery Options)). Which is your preferred option for net and fixed engine fisheries as set out in Section 5.2: Table 2?

Please select one item
Option 1
Ticked Option 2
Option 3
Option 4
I don't have a preferred option
Please provide details of why you have given this answer.
Need to restrict exploitation of salmon stocks in rivers where the population is at risk of not being sustainable. I do not believe that nets can continue to catch sea trout and release salmon quickly enough to allow salmon to survive.

Q5.4b (This question is for all consultees to answer and is in reference to the answer that you have given to Q5.4a). What are the benefits, if there are any, which you would see from your preferred option for net and fixed engine fisheries?

These could be economic as well as social/cultural, please provide details if you are able.
There are no benefits for net fisheries, but they should receive compensation.

Q5.4c (Seeking all consultees' views on the options for net and fixed engine fisheries in England and on the Border Esk (except North East Coast Net Fishery)). How long do you consider the measures covering a net and / or fixed engine fishery should be in place for?

Please select all that apply
5 Years
10 Years
Ticked Other
If other, please specify
Until the salmon stocks in the river are not at risk
Please provide details of why you have given this answer.
We cannot continue to harvest a salmon population which is in decline and if we do continue then the Greenlanders and Faroe islands will start netting salmon again. It is wrong to have one rule for us and another for them as we are dealing with the same population of fish.

Q5.4d (Seeking all consultees' views on the options for the North East Coast Net Fishery). Which is your preferred option for the North East Coast Net Fishery as set out in Section 5.3: Table 3?

Please select one item
Ticked Option NE1
Option NE2
Option NE3
I don't have a preferred option
Please provide details of why you have given this answer.
Scotland have banned mixed stock netting and many of the Northumberland fish are from Scottish rivers and also from the at risk rivers of the Coquet and Tees. Therefore England need to get into line with Scotland and cease netting in the North east from 2018.

Q5.4e (This question is for all consultees to answer and is in reference to the answer you have given to Q5.4d). What are the benefits, if there are any, which you would see from your preferred option for the North East Coast Net Fishery?

These could be economic as well as social/cultural, please provide details if you are able.
There are no benefits to the net fishery, but they have to face the fact that they are exploiting an unsustainable stock of fish and need to stop now and not in 5 years time. It is the same as the coal industry, which had to close.

6.2. Possible options for rod fisheries - catch and release of salmon

Q6.2a (This question is for all consultees to answer and we are seeking your views on the possible options that have been developed). Which is your preferred option for the catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries from those that are set out in Section 6.2: Table 6?

Please select one item
Option 1
Ticked Option 2
Option 3
Option 4
I don't have a preferred option
Please provide details of why you have given this answer.
there should be mandatory catch and release on all rivers that are at risk or probably at risk until stocks recover. it would be unfair to ban netting, but allow exploitation by rod fisheries. currently voluntary catch and release works well, but it will need to be mandatory for political reasons.

Q6.2b (This questions is for all consultees to answer and is in reference to the answer that you have given to Q6.2a). What are the benefits, if there are any, which you would see from your preferred option for the catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries?

These could be economic as well as social/cultural, please provide details if you are able.
There is no benefit to rod fisheries of mandatory catch and release as voluntary levels are so high that very few extra fish will be saved, but if the nets are being banned it is only fair that the rod fisheries should also be banned from taking fish until stocks recover.

Q6.2c (We would like to seek all consultees' views on the use of a voluntary (as opposed to mandatory) approach to deliver increased levels of catch and release). Do you agree with using a voluntary approach to deliver improved catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know
If no or don't know, please explain your answer and include any dis-benefits that you consider the use of voluntary catch and release would bring.
Voluntary catch and release works almost as well as mandatory C&R, but the dis-benefit would be that the netsmen would see this as unfair.

Q6.2f (This question is for all consultees). Would you support the voluntary catch and release of all salmon caught (100%) on rivers whose salmon populations are either?

Please select one item
At Risk
Ticked At Risk and Probably at Risk
At Risk, Probably at Risk and Probably Not at Risk
I would not support the voluntary catch and release of all salmon caught

Q6.2g (This question is for salmon anglers). Would you stop fishing for salmon if the proposed levels of catch and release were implemented (see Section 6.2: Table 6)?

Please select all that apply
Ticked No (I wouldn’t stop fishing whichever option was implemented)
Yes, if Option 1 was implemented
Yes, if Option 2 was implemented
Yes, if Option 3 was implemented
Yes, if Option 4 was implemented
Please tell us which river(s) you fish for salmon on.
Itchen, Avon and Wye all of which are 100% catch and release and fully booked

Q6.2h (This question is for salmon anglers). Would you consider moving to a river where lower levels of catch and release were required?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for your answer.
salmon anglers mainly want to catch salmon. If C&R improves catches then the fishing will not deteriorate. Coarse fishermen don't kill their catch, so why should salmon fishermen.

6.3. Possible options for rod fisheries - improving survival of released salmon (voluntary measures)

Q6.3a (This question is for all consultees to answer and is about the best practice recommendations for catch and release). Do you agree with the catch and release best practice recommendations?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes, all of them
Some of them
None of them
I don't know

Q6.3c (This question is for all consultees to answer and is about other ways that you might improve salmon surviving capture). Are there any other catch and release best practice recommendations that you feel should be included?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know

6.4. Possible options for rod fisheries - improving survival of released salmon (mandatory measures)

Q6.4a (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that having a landing net available to use should be required by byelaw whilst fishing for salmon or sea trout in England and Border Esk?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this answer.
a landing net generally provides less damage to the fish before release

Q6.4b (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that a landing net used when fishing for salmon and sea trout should be required by byelaw to have a maximum mesh size of 20mm (as measured across the widest point of the stretched mesh)?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know

Q6.4c (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of barbed hooks should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know
What would the impact, if any, be for you or your business of prohibiting the use of barbed hooks when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?
Barbed hooks don't cause much greater damage to fish, but more fish are landed. the value of fisheries depends on catches and fisheries want to land as many fish as possible.

Q6.4d (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of treble hooks should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?

Please select one item
Yes, all should be banned
Ticked Yes, but only large treble hooks greater than size 8 should be banned
No, these should not be banned
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this view and if you think that large treble hooks of a different size than greater than size 8 should be banned.
small trebles don't cause much damage, but larger trebles can cause damage to smaller fish
What would the impact be, if any, for you or your business of prohibiting the use of treble hooks (either completely or only large treble hooks) when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?
none as doubles and small trebles hook fish better than large trebles.

Q6.4e (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of circle hooks should be mandatory by byelaw when using worm as bait when fishing for salmon or sea trout?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this answer.
circle hooks are less likely to be taken down the throat of a salmon
What would the impact be, if any, for you or your business of only allowing the use of circle hooks when using worm as bait when fishing for salmon or sea trout?
none as circle hooks are just as effective.

Q6.4f (This question is for all consultees). Should there be restriction on the use of Flying ‘Cs’ when fishing for salmon or sea trout?

Please select one item
Yes, Flying ‘Cs’ should be banned
Ticked Yes, Flying ‘Cs’ should only be allowed with single hooks
No, restrictions should not apply to the use of Flying ‘Cs’
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this answer.
Flying C's are an effective method of catching fish and should not be banned. If you use a single hook they are still very effective and yet it is easier to release fish.
What would the impact be, if any, for you or your business of prohibiting the use of Flying 'Cs' or only allowing their use with single hooks when fishing for salmon or sea trout?
prohibiting Flying C's would reduce catches, but a single hook Flying C would maintain catches, but make it easier to release fish. Fishermen are ignorant about the use of single hooks, which are just as effective at catching salmon as trebles.

Q6.4g (This question is for all consultees). In your opinion, are there other types of equipment that should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon and sea trout?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know

7. Further comments

Q7 (This is for all consultees). Please tell us if you have any further comments that you would like to provide on this consultation.

Please provide your further comments here.
none