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2. The Salmon Five Point Approach

Q2.2a. To what extent do you agree with the summary of the current state of salmon stocks and the supporting information provided in Appendix 2?

Please select one item
Ticked Wholly
Partially
Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer.
Netting has always been a contentious issue and does need to be managed or totally banned. Catch and release is installed in all anglers so little work to be done there. However there is a lot of work to be done for water quality and salmon farms which release huge amounts of pollutants and which no one seems prepared to tackle. There is overwhelming evidence of the damage fish farms do today and historically so will this be taken on board by this consultation. I shall watch and see.

3. Deciding which salmon stocks need further protection

Q3.2a. To what extent do you agree that a salmon stock should be subject to additional protection from net/fixed engine and rod exploitation if it is classified as either At Risk or Probably at Risk of failing to meet its Management Objective?

Please select one item
Ticked Wholly
Partially
Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer. If you would like to provide us with an alternative approach then please do so.
Net/fixed engine should be banned. There is little or no benefit accept to the select individuals employed and there are glad to say not many of them left. Salmon fishing brings huge benefits to the local community with spend by visitors and their families. Most organised fisheries now have their own hatcheries which are either managed on a voluntary basis or by way of contribution, the nets men contribute nothing and do nothing towards preserving stocks.

4. Review of existing National Salmon Byelaws

Q4.2a. Do you agree with the proposal to renew without amendments the existing National Salmon Byelaws to protect spring salmon stocks?

Please select one item
Ticked Wholly
Partially
Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer.
The evidence that this is helping stocks is small but significant and this set of byelaws should be maintained for the health of future generations of salmon stocks.

5.4. All consultees' views sought on the options for net and fixed engine fisheries

Q5.4a (Seeking all consultees' views on the options for net and fixed fisheries in England and on the Border Esk (except North East Coast Net Fishery Options)). Which is your preferred option for net and fixed engine fisheries as set out in Section 5.2: Table 2?

Please select one item
Option 1
Option 2
Option 3
Option 4
Ticked I don't have a preferred option
Please provide details of why you have given this answer.
I have a very biased view that there should be a total and immediate netting ban.

Q5.4b (This question is for all consultees to answer and is in reference to the answer that you have given to Q5.4a). What are the benefits, if there are any, which you would see from your preferred option for net and fixed engine fisheries?

These could be economic as well as social/cultural, please provide details if you are able.
More fish available to spawn and therefore more inducement for fisherpersons to visit areas they would not normally do through lack of fish, this would rejuvenate economic help to rural communities.

Q5.4c (Seeking all consultees' views on the options for net and fixed engine fisheries in England and on the Border Esk (except North East Coast Net Fishery)). How long do you consider the measures covering a net and / or fixed engine fishery should be in place for?

Please select all that apply
5 Years
10 Years
Ticked Other
If other, please specify
Total ban.
Please provide details of why you have given this answer.
This practice is damaging to the north east catchment area and also east of Scotland rivers if necessary pay compensation to the netsmen but lets stop this practice one way or another.

Q5.4d (Seeking all consultees' views on the options for the North East Coast Net Fishery). Which is your preferred option for the North East Coast Net Fishery as set out in Section 5.3: Table 3?

Please select one item
Option NE1
Option NE2
Ticked Option NE3
I don't have a preferred option
Please provide details of why you have given this answer.
As above.

Q5.4e (This question is for all consultees to answer and is in reference to the answer you have given to Q5.4d). What are the benefits, if there are any, which you would see from your preferred option for the North East Coast Net Fishery?

These could be economic as well as social/cultural, please provide details if you are able.
Already answered.

6.2. Possible options for rod fisheries - catch and release of salmon

Q6.2a (This question is for all consultees to answer and we are seeking your views on the possible options that have been developed). Which is your preferred option for the catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries from those that are set out in Section 6.2: Table 6?

Please select one item
Option 1
Ticked Option 2
Option 3
Option 4
I don't have a preferred option
Please provide details of why you have given this answer.
Salmon are released by law up until the 16th June this is restriction enough on the river angler where there are no restrictions on nets men who contribute nothing. The vast majority of anglers I know already release all their fish and if one is kept for the table it invariably will be a cock fish. Enough restrictions here.

Q6.2b (This questions is for all consultees to answer and is in reference to the answer that you have given to Q6.2a). What are the benefits, if there are any, which you would see from your preferred option for the catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries?

These could be economic as well as social/cultural, please provide details if you are able.
Obviously more fish available to spawn but compared to whats taken by netsmen this is a drop in the ocean.

Q6.2c (We would like to seek all consultees' views on the use of a voluntary (as opposed to mandatory) approach to deliver increased levels of catch and release). Do you agree with using a voluntary approach to deliver improved catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries?

If no or don't know, please explain your answer and include any dis-benefits that you consider the use of voluntary catch and release would bring.
Catch and release as stated is already imposed by law enough laws for the rod and line man. The further imposition of more restrictions may reduce people willing to fish and then we are back to loss of money for hatcheries and conservation by anglers.

Q6.2d (If you answered yes to Q6.2c please answer these questions). Do you support the proposed levels of voluntary catch and release for rivers whose salmon populations are either At Risk, Probably at Risk or Probably Not at Risk (see Section 6.2: Table 6: Option 4)?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know

Q6.2e (If you answered yes to Q6.2c please also answer this question). What are the benefits that you would see in voluntary catch and release?

These could be economic as well as social/cultural, please provide details if you are able.
The angler will not feel he is being punished further for his sport and it will keep the visitors coming.

Q6.2f (This question is for all consultees). Would you support the voluntary catch and release of all salmon caught (100%) on rivers whose salmon populations are either?

Please select one item
At Risk
At Risk and Probably at Risk
At Risk, Probably at Risk and Probably Not at Risk
Ticked I would not support the voluntary catch and release of all salmon caught
If you wish, please provide us with the reason for your answer.
All rivers to my mind are at risk from pollution or other scources of problems for returning fish. Let us tackle the netsmen and the salmon farms who massively cause more damage to atlantic salmon that any rod and line fisherpersons could ever do.

Q6.2g (This question is for salmon anglers). Would you stop fishing for salmon if the proposed levels of catch and release were implemented (see Section 6.2: Table 6)?

Please select all that apply
Ticked No (I wouldn’t stop fishing whichever option was implemented)
Yes, if Option 1 was implemented
Yes, if Option 2 was implemented
Yes, if Option 3 was implemented
Yes, if Option 4 was implemented
Please tell us which river(s) you fish for salmon on.
Rivers Cree, Urr south west scotland, river wear north est enland and river towy wales.

Q6.2h (This question is for salmon anglers). Would you consider moving to a river where lower levels of catch and release were required?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for your answer.
As stated there is enough being done by the rod angler lets tackle the real problems.

Q6.2i (This question is for owners/lessees of salmon rod fisheries). What would the impact of these catch and release proposals be on your fishery (see Section 6.2: Table 6)?

Please select one item
No impact as a result of any of the options
Ticked A significant impact as a result of one or more of the options
I don’t know
Please provide us with details of which of the possible option(s) would result in a significant difference to your fishery. Please provide us with details of financial and social impacts.
Catch and release was implemented in total for the whole of the fishing season. Rods did not visit and people did not rejoin but fished elsewhere.

6.4. Possible options for rod fisheries - improving survival of released salmon (mandatory measures)

Q6.4a (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that having a landing net available to use should be required by byelaw whilst fishing for salmon or sea trout in England and Border Esk?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this answer.
Preserves safety of the fish for release.

Q6.4b (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that a landing net used when fishing for salmon and sea trout should be required by byelaw to have a maximum mesh size of 20mm (as measured across the widest point of the stretched mesh)?

Please select one item
Yes
No
Ticked I don't know

Q6.4c (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of barbed hooks should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?

What would the impact, if any, be for you or your business of prohibiting the use of barbed hooks when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?
More fish may get away damaged,

Q6.4d (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of treble hooks should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?

Please select one item
Yes, all should be banned
Yes, but only large treble hooks greater than size 8 should be banned
Ticked No, these should not be banned
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this view and if you think that large treble hooks of a different size than greater than size 8 should be banned.
Its personal choice and where is the evidence for different hook sizes.

Q6.4e (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of circle hooks should be mandatory by byelaw when using worm as bait when fishing for salmon or sea trout?

Please select one item
Yes
No
Ticked I don't know

Q6.4f (This question is for all consultees). Should there be restriction on the use of Flying ‘Cs’ when fishing for salmon or sea trout?

Please select one item
Yes, Flying ‘Cs’ should be banned
Yes, Flying ‘Cs’ should only be allowed with single hooks
Ticked No, restrictions should not apply to the use of Flying ‘Cs’
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this answer.
Why ban this lure where is the rationale for this where is the evidence,

Q6.4g (This question is for all consultees). In your opinion, are there other types of equipment that should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon and sea trout?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know
Please provide details of what these could be and why you think they should be prohibited or altered.
Restrictions are already imposed by individual rivers for types of lure why is a byelaw necessary.

7. Further comments

Q7 (This is for all consultees). Please tell us if you have any further comments that you would like to provide on this consultation.

Please provide your further comments here.
Lets concentrate on the real Redacted text in this matter the fish farms and the netsmen.