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2. The Salmon Five Point Approach

Q2.2a. To what extent do you agree with the summary of the current state of salmon stocks and the supporting information provided in Appendix 2?

Please select one item
Wholly
Ticked Partially
Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer.
I agree partially because in my heart I blame the agency and your partners for the state of the present salmon and sea trout stocks through your zealous stripping of wild fish to stock fish farms fish were not scarce until the agency took over from the river boards and I cannot come to terms with all these facts and figures to support your actions when you are the largest cause. I said here partially because other activities are also to blame but most of these activities have a long history (river pollution by farms, insecticides, milk market boards and others but if is easy to lay the blame on the lower ranks come. Come clean and take some of the blame. *signed*

3. Deciding which salmon stocks need further protection

Q3.2a. To what extent do you agree that a salmon stock should be subject to additional protection from net/fixed engine and rod exploitation if it is classified as either At Risk or Probably at Risk of failing to meet its Management Objective?

Please select one item
Wholly
Ticked Partially
Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer. If you would like to provide us with an alternative approach then please do so.
As over leaf I made my reasons from When this matter first came to hand the haaf netters of which I am an elderly member numbered about 275 members (the season was Feb 10th until Sept 10th). No weekend fishing but no restriction on tides or night fishing now the season is halved huge restrictions on tide times and no night fishing and the number of netsmen about 50 again since you come into power. Coincidence perhaps. I have I the past made suggestions of a two tier system. Sea trout licence only from start of sea trout season (mid April to mid July) without any restrictions and then another licence for salmon only from 1st June to mid Sept with the restrictions you have in place now that may once the allocation is caught in the season is over. *signed*

4. Review of existing National Salmon Byelaws

Q4.2a. Do you agree with the proposal to renew without amendments the existing National Salmon Byelaws to protect spring salmon stocks?

Please select one item
Wholly
Partially
Ticked Not at all
Please give your reasons and any evidence you have to support your answer.
because you as an agency could do more and in my previous answers I have laid most of the blame on the agency anyway.

5.2. Possible options for salmon net and fixed engine fisheries - across England and the Border Esk

Q5.2a (This question is for net and fixed engine fishermen). If you were no longer able to fish for salmon or sea trout, what would be the consequences for you?

Please provide us with details of both financial and cultural (i.e. traditions within your community and / or how you spend time within your local environment). Ideally, please use the last 5 years of income to support your answer.
There would be no financial loss in income as I do not gain financially from this activity but I would lose my respect for authority who deprive me of my only pleasure being as if in something of an heritage of by gone days and you the friends of the earth become the ironic ending of such present day. *signed*

Q5.2b (This question is for net and fixed engine fishermen). What are the opportunities for you to fish for other species if you could no longer fish for salmon or sea trout (e.g. white fish or crustaceans)?

If there are any please provide us with an estimated breakdown of the costs you would incur to switch to a different target species. Please indicate whether you would need to purchase quotas / different equipment.
I would have an opportunity to switch to other species and neither would I like to. I have done this type of fishing for almost 60years and never thought of doing anything different.

Q5.2d (This is for net and fixed engine fishermen). Please provide any other options for reducing the exploitation of salmon by your fishery that you would like us to consider.

Please provide details of these and why you would find them preferable to the possible options set out in Section 5.2: Table 2.
I do not meet my present expenses under the restrictions in place. Without you replacing more drastic measures. *signed*

Q5.2f (This question is for net and fixed engine fishermen). Do you fish in attendance with your nets or do you set them and return?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes – in attendance
No – set and return

Q5.2g (This question is for net and fixed engine fishermen). Do you currently release salmon as a result of existing controls on your fishery?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
If yes, please provide us with details of why this is.
?, ? and all grilse which you refer to as salmon

Q5.2h (This question is for net and fixed engine fishermen). What type of gear do you use when fishing for salmon and/or sea trout? Please provide details.

Please provide details of the gear that you use.
Haaf net and I am in attendance rain or shine.

Q5.2i (This question is for net and fixed engine fishermen). Do you consider that your fishing gear and how it is fished enables salmon to be released with minimal damage?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
Please provide us with information of the type of damage (e.g. scale loss or fin damage) that you see on the fish that you catch.
None I do not look they are tipped out right away to leviate any possible damage.

Q5.2j (This question is for net and fixed engine fishermen). Would altering your gear make it easier to release and/or cause less damage to salmon?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know

Q5.2k (This question is for net and fixed engine fishermen). If you could release salmon and continue to take the sea trout that you catch would you continue to fish for sea trout?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this answer.
Refer back to page 5 - yes with night fishing but it would have to be a full sea trout season.

Q5.2m (this question is for both businesses and net and fixed engine fishermen that are supplied with / catch wild salmon and sea trout from Fisheries in England and on the Border Esk). If fishing for salmon was required to cease, is there a date later than 2018 that would be economically easier to work towards?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
Please provide details of why a later date would reduce the impact of closure. These impacts could be either financial and/or social/cultural.
Your question gives the answer to our fears you have made up your minds about the measures would not improve the situation my suggestion would be limit the number of licences (which I am against) and then used natural selection to do its normal thing look at the ages of netsmen at present it would take a little longer but it would peter out eventually. *signed*

Q5.2n (this question is for both businesses and net and fixed engine fishermen that are supplied with / catch wild salmon and sea trout from Fisheries in England and on the Border Esk). How long do you consider the measures covering a fishery should be in place for?

Please provide details of why you have given this answer.
over leaf

5.4. All consultees' views sought on the options for net and fixed engine fisheries

Q5.4a (Seeking all consultees' views on the options for net and fixed fisheries in England and on the Border Esk (except North East Coast Net Fishery Options)). Which is your preferred option for net and fixed engine fisheries as set out in Section 5.2: Table 2?

Please select one item
Ticked Option 1
Option 2
Option 3
Option 4
I don't have a preferred option
Please provide details of why you have given this answer.
Haaf net (present activity)

6.2. Possible options for rod fisheries - catch and release of salmon

Q6.2a (This question is for all consultees to answer and we are seeking your views on the possible options that have been developed). Which is your preferred option for the catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries from those that are set out in Section 6.2: Table 6?

Please select one item
Option 1
Option 2
Option 3
Option 4
Ticked I don't have a preferred option
Please provide details of why you have given this answer.
Because the rod season goes on too long fish are almost ready to spawn and in the later stages of the season caught salmon tend to shed milt and eggs which is of no good if a fish is returned empty.
If you don't have a preferred option, please tell us if there is another approach that you consider that we should be taking and why.
Start the season earlier by this I mean to take a fish if required but finish somewhere around the nets containment. *signed*

Q6.2b (This questions is for all consultees to answer and is in reference to the answer that you have given to Q6.2a). What are the benefits, if there are any, which you would see from your preferred option for the catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries?

These could be economic as well as social/cultural, please provide details if you are able.
Barbless hooks (mandatory) these would reduce harm to fish of all species but especially salmon.

Q6.2c (We would like to seek all consultees' views on the use of a voluntary (as opposed to mandatory) approach to deliver increased levels of catch and release). Do you agree with using a voluntary approach to deliver improved catch and release of salmon by rod fisheries?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know
If no or don't know, please explain your answer and include any dis-benefits that you consider the use of voluntary catch and release would bring.
I have answered on previous pages which corresponds to this. and because some person might put a fish back that is very nearly spent and could probably die inexperience maybe. But a waste just the same but I do not pander to rod fishermen who cast aspersions on us netsmen who only take new fresh silver fish dark coloured and full fish always went back by me and most even long before these present restrictions. *signed*

Q6.2f (This question is for all consultees). Would you support the voluntary catch and release of all salmon caught (100%) on rivers whose salmon populations are either?

Please select one item
At Risk
At Risk and Probably at Risk
At Risk, Probably at Risk and Probably Not at Risk
Ticked I would not support the voluntary catch and release of all salmon caught
If you wish, please provide us with the reason for your answer.
The rich and famous probably would but the working classes need to show something for their outlay and would probably not and there are some who would not anyway if they were not being observed.

6.3. Possible options for rod fisheries - improving survival of released salmon (voluntary measures)

Q6.3a (This question is for all consultees to answer and is about the best practice recommendations for catch and release). Do you agree with the catch and release best practice recommendations?

Please select one item
Yes, all of them
Some of them
Ticked None of them
I don't know

Q6.3c (This question is for all consultees to answer and is about other ways that you might improve salmon surviving capture). Are there any other catch and release best practice recommendations that you feel should be included?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
If yes, please provide us with the details of these and your reasons why.
Fry only on rivers in low conditions no spinning no natural baits and if conditions last no fishing at all until a rise in water levels

6.4. Possible options for rod fisheries - improving survival of released salmon (mandatory measures)

Q6.4a (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that having a landing net available to use should be required by byelaw whilst fishing for salmon or sea trout in England and Border Esk?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this answer.
Less damage if the fish is to be returned and can usually be landed before fish tires if skillfull enough.

Q6.4b (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that a landing net used when fishing for salmon and sea trout should be required by byelaw to have a maximum mesh size of 20mm (as measured across the widest point of the stretched mesh)?

Please select one item
Yes
Ticked No
I don't know
Please tell us if you think this mesh size should be different from this and why.
Thicker twine so no cuts occur. Smaler than proposed mesh then no part of the fish can be protrude (??)

Q6.4c (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of barbed hooks should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
What would the impact, if any, be for you or your business of prohibiting the use of barbed hooks when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?
Already answered in suggestions on another page

Q6.4d (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of treble hooks should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon or sea trout with flies, lures or bait?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes, all should be banned
Yes, but only large treble hooks greater than size 8 should be banned
No, these should not be banned
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this view and if you think that large treble hooks of a different size than greater than size 8 should be banned.
All should be banned but allow barbless for balance on flies.

Q6.4e (This question is for all consultees). Do you consider that the use of circle hooks should be mandatory by byelaw when using worm as bait when fishing for salmon or sea trout?

Please select one item
Yes
No
Ticked I don't know

Q6.4f (This question is for all consultees). Should there be restriction on the use of Flying ‘Cs’ when fishing for salmon or sea trout?

Please select one item
Yes, Flying ‘Cs’ should be banned
Ticked Yes, Flying ‘Cs’ should only be allowed with single hooks
No, restrictions should not apply to the use of Flying ‘Cs’
I don't know
If you wish, please provide us with your reasons for this answer.
Answered previous pages

Q6.4g (This question is for all consultees). In your opinion, are there other types of equipment that should be prohibited by byelaw when fishing for salmon and sea trout?

Please select one item
Ticked Yes
No
I don't know
Please provide details of what these could be and why you think they should be prohibited or altered.
Prawns (???) They usually spoil fishing for others if not readily taken.

7. Further comments

Q7 (This is for all consultees). Please tell us if you have any further comments that you would like to provide on this consultation.

Please provide your further comments here.
Well I do appear to have went on a bit but I would like to safe guard my lifestyle the best |I know how I have tried to be honest in my opinions of both rod and net and can honestly say that contrary to beliefs the rods have nothing to fear from the Haaf nets fishermen. I know nothing of illegal netting anywhere but I am sure it will go on somewhere but that is your department and you have capable bailiffs to take care of any illegitimates. The rods and nets have coexisted for decades uncountable and yet just now we cannot function together which is fuel to your cause as outlaid in this document. I say neither of the two factions have any blame on the demise of the fish but I am sure that you will know a lot more which you will keep to yourselves. I do believe as most others do that overzealous stropping for fish farms is a MAJOR facto in the whole of this survey. It may be stopped now but a lot of damage was caused now it is time to let nature take its course with a little help from you but do not stop a herirage taken ?? of years without fault. *signed* 81 years young.